Tuesday, January 22, 2008

Period 2 - About a Boy Group A


Barbara B.
Nashally
Jimmy
Henry

Feb. 1st - 1-102
Feb. 7th - 103-206
Feb. 14th - Finish

Please post by 8 p.m. prior to discussion date.

30 comments:

nashally t 2 said...

Really..how desperate do you have to be to join a single parents group to find women? It's odd. But I guess thats..him. And I don't see what he has against having kids. He's in his late 30's and needs to find someone to settle down with. I already have predictions for the book. Will and Marcus seem to be headed in the direction of a good friendship.

Mr. Walsh said...

What makes you have those predictions?

nashally t 2 said...

Well they're bumping heads kind of now but it seems like Will is understanding Marcus a bit better and Marcus is kind of understanding Will a bit better too. Will is getting more involved with Marcus and his moms life and wants to help them out more since the accident. So it seems like they're going to be spending a lot of time together which is going to start a new friendship.

Jimmy v.2 said...

I don't think he's desperate for women. I think he was just looking for something to do. No pun intended. His life is pretty boring, efficient, but boring.

Up to around page 102, I don't think Will knows for sure how he feels about Marcus & Co. He's intrigued by them but he's afraid to break out of his own little world. And since Marcus is basically blackmailing Will, I don’t think he will be happy about that for a while.

I have a question. How come the author doesn’t mention that Will smokes until 10x pages into the book? I think it was when Will was watching TV and Marcus came over to snoop around or something. I don’t know why it might be important. It just seems odd.

henry d:2 said...

What is Will's intention with Marcus? I mean obviously Will isn't trying to hook up with Fiona since she isn't his type. I see no point in Marcus and Will interacting.

Jimmy v.2 said...

Will clearly is afraid of any relationship between him and Marcus' family thing. The only reason he's letting Marcus hang around is that Marcus is blackmailing him.

But maybe Will does like Marcus' company. There was that time when Marcus came over and asked to watch TV with Will and he was happy to hear that.

nashally t 2 said...

Well he is getting older and all and maybe he wants to see whats the big deal about people having kids and all. So he found Marcus and wants to keep up to date with young age and whats good about having a child.

Jimmy v.2 said...

Took him kind of long, don't you think? Will is like 30 years old. Though that isn't really OLD OLD. It's like avg adult old. I wonder what Will did as a kid. Did he time out his day, etc like he does now? That would be weird.

Do you think that Will was like Marcus when he was little? They're both kind of queer.

henry d:2 said...

I disagree with you Nashally. Never once did he say he wanted to settle down. In the chapter 2 he said he rather eat Barney's dirty diapers then have a family. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't he join SPAT just to get laid?

Jimmy v.2 said...

Hm. So I wonder why he didn't go after Suzie. She seemed like she was okay with Will. If he tried harder he could've dated her.

Maybe it's cause of the crazy suicide incident? Will likes interesting things and since he was now in contact with a suicidal woman and her weird son he totally forgot about his master plan of seducing single married women.

henry d:2 said...

It's more likely due to Marcus blackmailing Will? If Suzie found out Will's lies then she would be deeply upset, and that would ruin any chance between them. Is everyone enjoying the book? I am, it was really funny when Marcus killed the duck with the french loaf. He seemed so clueless.

Jimmy v.2 said...

I liked it when Marcus said that if the kids at his school laughed at mildly dorky kids then they would go 'demented' over the way he looked.

I LOL'd in the school library when I read this. Haha. So did henry.

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henry d:2 said...

I am curious on how this is a coming of age story. Nothing has happen yet except for Marcus being a total dork in school and everyone is picking on him. What kind of idiot starts singing out of nowhere? How is Will going to help this poor kid?

Jimmy v.2 said...

Well, I think that Marcus is coming of age in that he's old and doesn't know how to be a kid. On the other hand Will gets to teach Marcus how to be a kid and he himself learns the responsibilities of a parent.

So they're both coming of age. :O

Mr. Walsh said...

Jimmy, can you explain how that fits into our criteria?

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Jimmy v.2 said...

Whats our criteria?

So far, I'm not really sure where Will stands with Marcus & Co. He keeps telling us that coming in contact with them is the last thing he wants to do, yet he always finds a way to do so.

I think he's saying those things to not sound like a sap for wanting a real and decent family.

And what about Marcus? It seemed like at the Christmas party he was really happy to have his family and Will there. It kind of showed a more innocent side of Marcus, which is different from his usual worried self.

henry d:2 said...

I don't think Marcus is old but I do agree in him needing to fit in. I believe Will will have a important role in fixing this problem. Jimmy aren't you contradicting yourself by saying it's a coming of age novel because Marcus needs to be young because he's old?

Jimmy v.2 said...

I don't know. Probably. I meant that Marcus needs to have less adult responsibilities and worries and be a kid.

What I'm saying is that Marcus knows too much and has experienced a lot of grief. In most cases he doesn't even realize that he shouldn't be treated like so.

As a coming of age novel Marcus has to realize that hes a kid and act like one. Will plays the part of helping him fit in and etc. In turn Will gets to experience adult responsibilities and worries.

It's kind of like a trade between Will and Marcus. They need each other to function properly.

henry d:2 said...

I guess and the signs are apparent. Like the fight between Marcus and Fiona when Marcus said he needed a father. This could have hinted Will having a father-like role for Marcus. What do you guys think of Ellie? She's quite the opposite of Marcus, how exactly did they become friends? But it is rather beneficial since this is a sign of him fitting in.

nashally t 2 said...

this book is so good. It definetly is a good coming of age story not just for Marcus but even for Will. He even matured.

Jimmy v.2 said...

I liked it too. I can see WIll looking like Hugh Grant. (He plays will in the movie.) But I dont know about the little kid. He looks too young. I imagined Marcus looking a bit older.

henry d:2 said...

The book ended the way I expected. Will and Marcus both maturing. I hated how the father reacted to his injury. Being a proper father when his life was at stake.

Jimmy v.2 said...

What do you mean? Isn't that a situation where it matters? It shows that he's fatherly deep down.

henry d:2 said...

Yes it shows he's a father deeply down but I can't believe he had to get injured to realize this.

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Jimmy v.2 said...

Okay, so what? Isn't it normal that he should feel like he should give his son something in the case that he might die? I guess it knocked some sense into him.

I think it would've been strange to keep on doing what he was doing for the sake of consistency.

henry d:2 said...
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henry d:2 said...

Sure it's a good thing to finally take a role in your children's life but how would the children feel? He did not take fatherly role for Marcus but for himself, how selfish. Marcus felt frustrated and angry when he heard this. What are you views on Marcus maturing and Will? What exactly cause Marcus' loneliness in the first place? Was it the separation of the parents or Fiona pushing Marcus to be different from the rest?