Tuesday, January 22, 2008

Period 4 - Catalyst Group B


Casey
Laura
Victoria
Jen

Feb. 1 - Chapters 1 -5
Feb. 7 - Chapters 6 - 9
Feb. 14 - To the end


Please Post by 8 p.m. before the discussion date.

27 comments:

Jen-T 4 said...

so what do u guys think about the book so far, if youve even started it yet slackers.

Victoria P. 4 said...

Of course we've started it jen! =) So far i really enjoy the book. It seems like there is a lot to come for Kate. Like what might happen if Kate isn't there for her brother, because its obvious that she is basically a mother figure for him. You can tell that she is constantly stressed out, like when she was thinking about everything while running at her track practice/meet. I like how her and her boyfriend are because it seems like they really care and understand eachother. I just hope college doesn't change things for them. What do you guys think about it so far?

Mr. Walsh said...

What about her and her relationship with her boyfriend rings true? Think about evaluating it.

casey w. 4 said...

I CAN"T BELIVE SHE DIDNT GET IN TO MIT! Kate has based the rest of her life on getting into MIT and now she is faced the reality of being rejected. I feel like Kate is taking her relationship with Mitch for granted becasue she treats him lousy when she is in a bad mood. I also wanted to bring up the point of a symbol I am starting to pick up on and that is the watch that Teri stole. Time seems to be a huge factor in this book becasue Kate is always compressed for time or late for things. Has anyone picked up on any other themes or symbols?

laura b said...

I had the same reaction that Casey had about Kate not getting in to MIT. But now many questions have come up in my mind: like why wouldn't she getting in if she has spend most of her school life caring about grades and trying to be the best ? we see by the descriptions of her self that she is a very bright girl so what factor made MIT not pick her.?
I also agree with Casey in the boyfriend issue, Kate seems like she really doesn't care about him. Treating him the way she does i can make a prediction that he will not be by her side if her attitude doesnt change. What other predictions can you guys make?

casey w. 4 said...

I actually have enjoyed this book so far because it is interesting to see Kate's way of thinking. I think it is weird how Kate relates everything into science terms or how every chapter is named after a science term. Even the title is a science word. This brings up a question i have: Judging from what we have read so far does anyone connect this title to the book? I also think that Teri and Kate's relationship is going to play a big role in this story as far as learning things from each other. Does anyone agree with Kate that they made a "mistake" about getting into MIT?

Victoria P. 4 said...

I see what you mean by the symbol with the watch, Casey. I think the time thing is a big deal with Kate. I also agree that Terri and Kate are going to start to learn from each other. You can already see a small change in how they are connecting, and do not seem as mean to each other. I think that maybe the fire is causing Terri to appriciate things more. To me it seems that Terri is a mother-figure to Mikey. Does anyone else think so? I think it's because of how Mrs. Litch isn't really involved and the father is dead.

Jen-T 4 said...

ok first off i wanna say that i hate casey bc i didnt read the part about MIT until AFTER i read her blog, thanks buddy. But anyways i also agree with what you guys all say about the time and kate and her relationship with Teri. I think that fact that they are both mother figures to there bother gives them a common interest. Also how they have one parent. I think that Kate is very sentimental with her just by the way she talks about her, even during the fight at school she felt bad. Other then that i really like the book so far, better then After the First Death by far =]

Sorry Walsh its 8:07 =[

laura b said...

I agree with Casey and Toria about the relationship between Teri and Kate. I think that many surprises will come along. I think they are starting to build a friendship even though I think they won’t admit. I also have to agree with Toria in the motherly thing. They both have so much in common but I don’t think they even realize. They both are taken care of younger siblings but not like the older sister but like a mother to them. I also think that even though Kate’s dad is there in some way he never is REALLY THERE. What do you guys think about Kate’s dad?

Mr. Walsh said...

What elements of coming-of-age literature have you found so far? Theme of Exile? Maturation Process?

laura b said...

OMG!!!! I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT MIKEY DIED. did u guys ever think that this was going to happend?? what about when we find out about Charlie.!!! I think after this we see Kate and Teri becoming closer and they are both trying to help each other. Do u guys think Teri can overcome what just happend??

Victoria P. 4 said...

I can't believe Mikey dies either. I honestly did not see that coming! I think that Teri will eventually get over it. It's just going to take some time. Maybe it will make Teri realize how she is acting is out of control and maybe make her mature a little more than how she has been acting and how she is always getting into fights and having a problem with someone else. What do you guys think the deal with Kate and her boyfriend is? And, do you guys think that Kate will try to get back to MIT?

casey w. 4 said...

Wow I had the same reaction as Laura and Toria when I found out mikey died. This will defiantly bring Teri and Kate closer. I think this book has a lot to do with a becoming of age novel as Mr.Walsh mentioned. Kate is struggling from moving on about being denied from MIT and that is understandable but she must get on with her life and find other options. To answer Toria's question about whether or not Kate will go back to MIT I say no. I think Kate will realize that she is being irrational and in the end Kate will get into another great college and be content with that. Does anyone else think this book links to a becoming of age novel? I really do not understand Kate and Mitch’s relationship I don’t think it is healthy. I hope the whole mikey incident will turn Teri into a better person rather than worse, because this could be the last straw for Teri. What do you guys think?

Jen-T 4 said...

Yeah I totally agree with all of you about what happened to Mikey, its so sad bc from the way the author Laurie decribed him he seemed so cute and adorable. To answer Toria's question i dont really think she will try to get back into MIT but i also dont think she will get into another college like CAsey said etiher. From the way the other kids in the book are talking it seems like it would be too late to get into any colleges this late in the year. I also think that Mikey's death is a big blow to Teri. I mean besides her mom which from how she acted when she visited her after there farm burned down, there relationship doesnt seem strong so Mikey is the only real family she had or cared truly about for that matter. I think that with all the harassment she gets in school and the issues with her home life and living situation I think she will tend to be more to herself and thats where Kate will come in because there going to have a relationship together based on loosing things they loved. MIT for Kate and Mikey for Teri.

Victoria P. 4 said...
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Victoria P. 4 said...

I agree with you, Casey, that this may be a coming of age novel. I think that Kate needs to realize that she has not been accepted to MIT and just understand she's not going. I think that it will take her maturity to finally get over this big "heartbreak". Teri might be able to become mature by loosing someone so close to her. I think that Kate will try to go through with MIT but that will fail, and that is when she'll become more mature than how she is now. And for her and Mitch i think that is very unhealthy like Casey said. She needs to realize that she is taking out all of her anger on the people that mean the most. She needs to stop acting like a little kid and being selfish by acting like it's the end of the world that she didn't get into the college she wanted to. If she was really smart she would have applied to more schools, so that no matter what she would definetley be going to college.

casey w. 4 said...

I want to go back to Mikey's death and talk about how the death brings everyone together. The Litch incident with the fire and now mikey's death have brought Toby and Kate much closer. They were always close because thier mother died but now they are both there for eachother. I feel bad for the kate's father because his heart is always in the right place but nothing seems to be working out for him. I think that Teri's family is going to mature Kate into be not so much more responsible but more rational. I also have a question about Mikey. Was Mikey Teri's son or was she just saying he was like a son? That sort of confused me. Well the book is getting more interesting and deeper so has anyone come up with any other themes besided coming of age?

Jen-T 4 said...

hello everyone! i wanted to start off by saying i agree with toria about the whole college thing. Kate really shouludnt expect to try and make a plan to get into MIT now, she should have been smart and appylied to more schools, then again i understand how she was so confident that she was gonig to go i mean like it said in the book her grades are amazing and she has so many extra curriculars that she participates in. A part of me thinks that heartbreak may be a theme in this book. We see alot of it alread with the whole college thing, mikeys death not to mention the death of kate and tobys mom. I noticed that the characters have already gone through alot of morning and dissapointment in there lives thats why a part of me thinks that there might be some more heartbreak in the future. Maybe with Kate and Mitches relationship. They seem bumpy already and with him going to Harvard next fall and her current future (staying home) it seems like thats going to cause a problem. What do you guys think?

laura b said...

I think that by Kate’s boyfriend going in to Harvard like Jen said might bring a lot of problems between them two. We see a lot of bumps in the road in their relationship and we also see that Kate is trying but not hard enough. I also don’t think Kate will get in to another school for this year. And with Kate and Teri I think the relationship will grow into something really strong.

casey w. 4 said...
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casey w. 4 said...

Teri's actions have surprised me as far as how she is handling Mickey’s death. Teri insisted on going to school the next day and continuing with life. It is Kate who I am worried about. She is the one who is dragging around and taking everything so hard. Don't get me wrong I know Teri is extremely upset but she comes off to me as handling the whole situation better. Kate just continues to treat Mitch horrible. Sarah tells Kate that she is worried about Mitch and Kate does not show that she cares. I also agree with everyone about the whole college situation because Kate has done nothing to look into any other colleges. How do you guys think Kate’s friends and family will react when they fight out Kate has only applied to MIT? I feel sorry for Kate but she is always complaining and not trying to help herself. The book is starting to get repetitive.

Victoria P. 4 said...

I think that Kate's family and friends will react the same way as all of us have. They will probably feel that she is stupid and possibly unorganized for not thinking about her life. Mitch and her are just getting worse and worse. I think that they are just better off without eachother because Kate cannot handle a boyfriend anymore. I agree with Casey about being worried about Kate. It seems like Kate is constantly not in a good state of mind. I feel bad that things don't seem to be getting any better for her, but she is not really having a postive attitude towards anything either.

laura b said...

I agree with Casey on how Kate is reaction to all her problems but i have to dissagree with what she says about teri Handling her situation. We see Teri through Kate's eyes and maybe she doesn't tell us alot about Teri but with what she does tell us we can say that Teri is in pretty bad shape. she quit school and nobody knows about her, and she has destroyed most of the house. What reaction did you guys have when Teri was waitressing at the breakfast place?

Victoria P. 4 said...

When they took Kate to the diner i figured maybe it would do her some good, and then Teri came over. I think it made it harder for her to enjoy her friends considering she saw Teri working. What do you guys think on the whole Mitch freaking out on Teri about touching Kate's food. I thought that it was a kind of nice thing of Mitch because he did not want to see Kate being pushed around..What do you guys think?

Victoria P. 4 said...

When they took Kate to the diner i figured maybe it would do her some good, and then Teri came over. I think it made it harder for her to enjoy her friends considering she saw Teri working. What do you guys think on the whole Mitch freaking out on Teri about touching Kate's food. I thought that it was a kind of nice thing of Mitch because he did not want to see Kate being pushed around..What do you guys think?

casey w. 4 said...

This book was really predictable. I agree with you,Toria about the Mitch incident but i think it is best for Mitch and Kate to just stay friends.I knew kate was going to be able to take a year off. I think Kate showed her becoming of age when she accepted the fact that she was not going to get into MIT. This book start off strong but had a weak ending. What do you guys think?

laura b said...

I was really surprise when Mitch stood up for Kate, I wasnt really expecting it from him. I have to agree with Casey on the ending it was very week and predictable. I think all of us predicted that she would take a year off and that she would end up in some sort of friendship with Kate. Do you guys think if the book had a better ending it would of made more interesting?